Updated 5/5/07 with more log data in the comments.
Gee, it’s a good thing Kaiser says it isn’t paying attention, because otherwise we might wonder why Buzz Logic, Edelman PR, Campbell-Ewald and Digital Impact (all highly overpaid Kaiser “image consultants”) have been spending so much time around here (or trying to anyway). One day we have a story to tell about all of the dirty tricks these people have pulled to make it difficult for folks to find us, but for now we’ll just let our error log speak for itself.
From just the last 24 hours:
- May 3 15:47:05 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 15:16:48 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 15:01:51 2007 — 64.34.246.47 Buzz Logic
- May 3 14:16:24 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 13:46:08 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 13:15:47 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 12:45:38 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 12:28:45 2007 — 209.10.200.2 Digital Impact
- May 3 12:15:42 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 11:45:14 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 11:15:29 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 10:44:59 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 10:15:15 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 3 09:16:05 2007 — 65.123.68.81 Campbell-Ewald
- May 3 09:16:05 2007 — 65.123.68.81 Campbell-Ewald
- May 2 20:29:30 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 19:59:17 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 19:29:18 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:59:14 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:44:23 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:39:41 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:39:41 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:38:07 2007 — 12.38.190.9 Edelman
- May 2 18:34:44 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 18:29:07 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 17:58:49 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 17:28:34 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 16:58:30 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 16:28:24 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 15:57:38 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 15:27:23 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 14:57:14 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 14:27:10 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:57:10 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:30:40 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:27:28 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:27:14 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:18:58 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:15:48 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:10:15 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 13:09:23 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 12:56:45 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 12:26:55 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 11:56:37 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 11:26:33 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 10:56:28 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 10:55:52 2007 — 12.43.177.2 Edelman
- May 2 10:53:46 2007 — 12.43.177.2 Edelman
- May 2 10:26:22 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
- May 2 09:56:31 2007 — 12.154.206.2 Edelman
Fantastic. 🙂 I love to watch those site stats. Nothing quite tells it like those do.
Kaiser still not paying attention:
I am glad that Kaiser is so concerned that they keep checking this website, but I am afraid that most people only find it AFTER they have been victimized by Kaiser. I suggest that those of us who have been victimized have a moral responsibility to WARN others BEFORE they also become Kaiser victims. The best way to get TV coverage is probably to organize a group of people to carry big signs with warnings on them while walking up and down sidewalks in front of Kaiser clinics and hospitals. (Of course, let the media know when it will occur.) The media are more likely to want to report the “news” of a live demonstration than to report what is on websites.
As long as Kaiser is checking this page so often, I have something I’d like to ask them! When the Roseville, CA. Kaiser gets a “low priority” patient in ER Triage (someone who reports symptoms in more than one body system), why do they treat them like a dangerous psych patient? Why is this kind of patient to be forced to shout their private medical information and financial information from the waiting room through a thick bulletproof window, which is about as public as you can get? Also, why are they told to “take off your clothes, put on this gown, and go wait in the public waiting room”? Also, why are they not allowed to use a restroom (when undressed and in their gown) in the regular ER, but told to use the *public restroom* in the waiting room? Isn’t this sub-human treatment, let alone vile human rights violations? May I please have an answer?
You should file a HIPAA privacy complaint with the DHHS Office for Civil Rights, regarding the bullet proof glass issue. The OCR will investigate very, very slowly; Kaiser will lie and attempt to exploit loopholes in the law; then maybe — just maybe — Kaiser will correct the problem to avoid future complaints of a similar nature.
Regarding the other issues, you won’t get an answer. Kaiser never addresses complaints in any honest or meaningful way. Your best bet for avoiding this kind of treatment is to avoid Kaiser.
Thank you!(I accidentally walked into Kaiser instead of another hospital but it got me an education). Does anyone know why, if you report symptoms in more than one body system, it is treated as a psych problem? My friend is a Social Worker and she says she knows about that secret rule, but she hasn’t said she knows why, either.
I don’t know the answer to that, but I think they probably assume the individual is a hypochondriac. To be fair, that’s probably often the case when someone comes into an ER with multiple complaints. However, in low-income areas you’re bound to have a lot of uninsured, and by the time they get to the ER it’s quite possible they will in fact have multiple medical problems.
The bottom line is, they know that if they treat someone badly enough that person won’t want to come back. It’s a very effective way to rid themselves of the “undesirables” (and that includes people who complain about anything).
Heck, Kaiser refers its own members to Behavioral Health when they have an undiagnosed illness. It’s ingrained in the Kaiser culture to blame the patient rather than question the competence of the diagnostician. And that is why when the big scandal cases come to light regarding repeat malpractice offenders, Kaiser has typically continued to allow them to practice — even defended them vigorously in court/arbitration — for years, all while ignoring numerous member complaints.
That is good because I have something planned to share online very soon that I bet may get their attention regarding KP Health Connect. More to come . . .
I’m a kaiser membere which we got it from my husabnd employer, but if we have a choice to transefer to another healthcare provider we would , i went to urgent care clinic at around 7pm with compklaints of nausea and vomiting and a teriible headache, i been vomiting since 12 noon that day, and tried to replace my fluid but it just wouldnt stay in my tummy i vomit and i vomit 6-7 times till i was in the clinic and at that point i was 14 weeks pregnant, i was tired and really exhausted i waited for 2 hours before i was called and then waited inside the room for another 1 hour for the doctor to come in to check me …they knew how badly i needed the help but they seeems to be they just dont care about it …finally doctor came in 3hours after and then i though they gonna put me an IV to make sure to repalace the fluid but they did not even bother, the nurse came in like a robot…and said to turn around because they gonna give me a pain releiver, i ask the nurse what kind of medicine was that but the nurse was so rude…she said i have to aslk the doctor…i mean what kind of people does kaiser permamnenete hire they dont seems to have ethics and politeness, everyhting is so bad about them, i ended up going home with the pain and being treated inhuman.I been to other clinics and hospital and the staff and the facilty is really good but with kaiser we always have a problem? everything is a problem, im kinda worried maybe the next time i ‘ll be dead….
I had a NP in Salem, Oregon literally yell in my face because I came in complaining of sever pain in my sinuses, I said I was’nt sure if it was a infection of some sort, she was upset that I would’nt take the over the counter sinus medicine and nose spray because I was’nt sure if that’s what it was. I told her the last time I did the spray I threw up and wondered if it was something else besides my sinuses. She said “THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, AND IF YOU DON’T, YOU’RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER” I of course started crying right there, just from the shock of being yelled at by a professional which I have never had that happen before. I asked if she could do the scan of my sinuses to rule it out. She flat out said “NO”. She NEVER apologized for yelling, only changed her tone. I was so upset that I did’nt know where to start as far as reporting her. As it turned out, I had a really bad abcessed tooth. Because I took the sinus medicine, but my face continued to swell on one side. My dentist took me in to help me.
Another time, My husband and I had to see a fertility specialist and so we met with a Kaiser Dr to do the workup. He immediatly told us that he would have to do exploratory surgery on my falopian tubes to see “firsthand” what’s going on, and that there would be a risk of losing one or both tubes. We said we would talk about it, and when I called the office to leave a message with his nurse that we did’nt feel I needed something so drastic as surgery, he refused so see me after that and also refused to refil my medication for my PCOS (I take metformin and had taken it for 3 years prior) So I had to go to another Dr in the Kaiser on Sunnyside, to have him fill it for me. He was actually nice about it and asked me why the other Dr did’nt do it. I said “he refused and sent me to you”. I had to drive almost 2 hours on the crazy freeway from Salem to Portland just so another Doctor could do what the other one refused to do. I did mention that the other one refused to see me after that, right? NO JOKE. Without medical intervention, we finally have our son, 4 years after these horrible incidents. I’m not afraid to name names, dates and locations…what are they going to do? They’re cowards behind white jackets.
Folks,
So I see Campbell-Ewald has been checking things out …
Please, have a look at this video made specially for them … and KP.
Jupirena Stein
Google this:
Kaiser Permanente and Their Choise of Advertizing; -Campbell – Ewald
or click here.
http://youtu.be/IuFoNUIeLCY
Have you seen this list of doctors that gave money {31.5 Million } to oppose checking their doctors for drugs and or alchool?
Here it is.
Kaiser Permanente Opposes Drug Testing Their Own Doctors
http://youtu.be/Jg4tieISE5M
Thank you
Jupirena Stein